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unfounded claims

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someone wrote that businessmen withdrew their investments from greece, but he didn't cite any sources. I deleted that comment. Also, if you don't know english, don't write in the english wiki. the phrase "grafo istoria" shouldn't be translated as "write history", but as "make history".

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Cleaning up

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A week ago, I started rewriting the "Political Career" section up to 1981, because there were almost no references and there were some biased statements. This was ok, since I was mostly filling the gaps, or let's just say that I was mostly adding into the narrative. My additions are not perfect by any means but at least it now has a more cohesive narrative and it has references supporting this narrative. I will move in the 1981-1989 period, which in my opinion is a mess. Most of the references are either broken, or they are opinions from (almost exclusively Greek) newspapers or even reports from political institutions that are not peer-reviewed. Three more things. 1) I find that some references were used in a biased way. 2) References such as books were provided without pages, making it impossible or very challenging to determine whether the reference supports that statement. 3) Some information provided are details; WP is not a list of facts, in our case, a list of all the laws that Papandreou enacted. It is important to get to the big picture.

Either way, a clean-up is required. I intend to go through this by examining each part one by one. Anything that does not stand on WP standards will be moved or removed. I will try to preserve as much as I can. I intend to use academic books and journals as replacements for references. I have included a link ([[1]]) the point before starting doing changes in the "Political Career" as a point of reference. Any help is welcomed, but please also be polite in offering criticism, especially by providing academic sources with pages. Thank you.A.Cython (talk) 02:24, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Apparently, the latest effort to improve the article had an issue with being too similar to sourced material, specifically Koliopoulos' book. Two sections, one of which had three subsections, are in question involving the most troubled time of the political career of Andreas Papandreou. I do not deny that I might have been more faithful than I should have been to the language of the sources, as I am trying to be unbiased. However, it has not been clear to me which sentences are causing trouble, but I have been in the process of identifying the troubling language that flagged this.

The current version of the updated text is located here [2].

I will continue to improve it in the following days (rewriting parts). However, I would be most grateful if anyone could help by being specific about the troubled sentences. Thank you in advance. A.Cython (talk) 19:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]